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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;They maximized their profits at the expense of American consumers&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 15:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well they better not lower their prices; that would be unfair competition.  But they can&#039;t raise the either, because that&#039;s price gouging.  And if they keep them the same, it&#039;s collaboration and illegal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well they better not lower their prices; that would be unfair competition.  But they can&#8217;t raise the either, because that&#8217;s price gouging.  And if they keep them the same, it&#8217;s collaboration and illegal.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 05:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Profit has a bad name, because many think of it as winning a bet on a horse race, which is zero-sum. That&#039;s not to say that there is not legitimate profit in providing entertainment -- it&#039;s just that I disagree that profit comes from the same sort of idle luck.

While driving in my car by Seven-Eleven, I was wondering why after all of the great giveaways in Africa, Asia, and  South America, with all of their land reform has kept them poor. (The argument of the socialists is that the U.S. is rich because it is lucky to have abundant natural resources.)

I then thought of the folks running the Seven-Eleven, who work all the time, and have saved to buy the inventory in their store and at their gas pumps.  They came to Pennsburg because they thought our country was a better gamble than Africa, Asia, or South America. 

I look on &quot;profits&quot; differently. Profit comes from creating something of value, not only for yourself, but rather for yourself and someone else. When you do that, you trade the excess with someone else who has managed to produce something extra. 

The community grows. Hunters produce many pelts, fishers find many oysters, and toolmakers provide them the knives to skin the game and shuck the oysters.  Then some ogre comes in and says he will kill some of you unless you give him two fingers of pelts, six and six fingers of oysters, half of your tools, but because he is nice, he will protect you from the wolves and the tigers, as long as you till the fields and are happy with your portion.

Everyone ceases to hunt or fish. 

One becomes a shaman, who explains what has happened. He says that the ogre should have taken more pelts and oysters. The shaman becomes the first economic advisor to the ogre.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Profit has a bad name, because many think of it as winning a bet on a horse race, which is zero-sum. That&#8217;s not to say that there is not legitimate profit in providing entertainment &#8212; it&#8217;s just that I disagree that profit comes from the same sort of idle luck.</p>
<p>While driving in my car by Seven-Eleven, I was wondering why after all of the great giveaways in Africa, Asia, and  South America, with all of their land reform has kept them poor. (The argument of the socialists is that the U.S. is rich because it is lucky to have abundant natural resources.)</p>
<p>I then thought of the folks running the Seven-Eleven, who work all the time, and have saved to buy the inventory in their store and at their gas pumps.  They came to Pennsburg because they thought our country was a better gamble than Africa, Asia, or South America. </p>
<p>I look on &#8220;profits&#8221; differently. Profit comes from creating something of value, not only for yourself, but rather for yourself and someone else. When you do that, you trade the excess with someone else who has managed to produce something extra. </p>
<p>The community grows. Hunters produce many pelts, fishers find many oysters, and toolmakers provide them the knives to skin the game and shuck the oysters.  Then some ogre comes in and says he will kill some of you unless you give him two fingers of pelts, six and six fingers of oysters, half of your tools, but because he is nice, he will protect you from the wolves and the tigers, as long as you till the fields and are happy with your portion.</p>
<p>Everyone ceases to hunt or fish. </p>
<p>One becomes a shaman, who explains what has happened. He says that the ogre should have taken more pelts and oysters. The shaman becomes the first economic advisor to the ogre.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 02:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bastiat had it right about the government favoring producers over consumers, and favoring itself above all. The Old Negative Railroad.

You made many great points, and tonight I wish I were in your class.

One book you should somehow provide a link to: Econoclasts: The Rebels Who Sparked the Supply-Side Revolution and Restored American Prosperity, by Brian Domitrovic (ISI). I&#039;m going to order it from the Montgomery County Socialist Library, so they have to purchase it.

The review I read was in National Review, and it told of how Samuelson vilified Art Laffer to nuke Laffer&#039;s professional career, but, more imortantly to preserve Keynsean and liberal orthodoxy.

It also tells of the meeting between Robert Bartley, Art Laffer, and Jude Wanniski.

Speedmaster and you should order the book through the public library and the university, respectively. 

Until I read it, I will hold my recommendation for its inclusion in Rochester&#039;s Econ 103. 

Wintercow, I&#039;ve lost your current e-mail addy. Please update me. The one in my address book is the .edu one. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bastiat had it right about the government favoring producers over consumers, and favoring itself above all. The Old Negative Railroad.</p>
<p>You made many great points, and tonight I wish I were in your class.</p>
<p>One book you should somehow provide a link to: Econoclasts: The Rebels Who Sparked the Supply-Side Revolution and Restored American Prosperity, by Brian Domitrovic (ISI). I&#8217;m going to order it from the Montgomery County Socialist Library, so they have to purchase it.</p>
<p>The review I read was in National Review, and it told of how Samuelson vilified Art Laffer to nuke Laffer&#8217;s professional career, but, more imortantly to preserve Keynsean and liberal orthodoxy.</p>
<p>It also tells of the meeting between Robert Bartley, Art Laffer, and Jude Wanniski.</p>
<p>Speedmaster and you should order the book through the public library and the university, respectively. </p>
<p>Until I read it, I will hold my recommendation for its inclusion in Rochester&#8217;s Econ 103. </p>
<p>Wintercow, I&#8217;ve lost your current e-mail addy. Please update me. The one in my address book is the .edu one. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Speedmaster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Speedmaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt; “They maximized their profits at the expense of American consumers ...”

Of course you know this, but I have to say it anyway. If it was that easy, why can&#039;t anyone just take any current business, and start doubling their prices tomorrow, making the owners quite rich, quite fast?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt; “They maximized their profits at the expense of American consumers &#8230;”</p>
<p>Of course you know this, but I have to say it anyway. If it was that easy, why can&#8217;t anyone just take any current business, and start doubling their prices tomorrow, making the owners quite rich, quite fast?</p>
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