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    • Isn’t it just mildly disconcerting to see millions of people pouring into the streets to worship a politician?

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      No, I did not vote for Team Elephant, but I am old enough to remember this. A strange world we live in.

      5 Responses to “Two Quick Reflections … and off to the Wilderness I Go”

      1. Michael says:

        I also find it strange to see so many Obama t-shirts like those of Che Guevara. I think this is exactly what Jonah Goldberg was talking about in Liberal Fascism, whether or not you agree with the book.

      2. noodleguy says:

        Yeah, it really bugs me all those people who get all excited over some politician. I mean, just because the’s the first black president and the most intelligent person we’ve had in the office for many, many years. Its no reason for people to start VOTING and stuff.

        Just more reasons young people should not get interested in politics. They need to stay in their place: playing the violent videogames we ban them from, and smoking drugs we also ban. Obviously this is bad for out country. Actually, it gives me a bad taste in my mouth just to THINK about anyone getting this excited over politics. Politics is meant for the eldery, just go into the Senate and the House, you’ll see.

        This isn’t to mention the adults who voted for Obama. They shouldn’t be excited either. Obviously they just did it so they can push their socialist agenda, clearly. And obviously they just are also sexist for not voting for Palin, whoops, I mean McCain…

        And, y’know, being excited over the most historic election probably since the 1930s is absolutly inexcusable. Really people. Get back in your places!

      3. noodleguy says:

        Hmmm.
        Alright, but I still see nothing wrong with being excited over it. Fanaticism is a problem for sure, but it is a seriously big election so I’m not too surprised that people are psyched over it. Its not really a wonder that people are excited over it. And let people have their parties if they want. Its the first African-American president. Kind of a big deal. Really. And I find millions of people in the streets celebrating to mean that people actually cared about the outcome, which is a good thing, not bad. I really can’t see McCain moving anyone or anything to action.

        Haven’t read Goldberg’s book, but have heard a lot about it. 90% sure I would not enjoy it if I read it. I’ve only ever seen one person wearing an Obama T-shirt, so I dunno about that. The campaign was giving them out to anyone who donated to them so that might be why a lot of people have them.

        Its kind of like FDR. His actual “New Deal” policies and all that probably didn’t do much to end the Depression, but he did give people hope and made the country have a much better attitude. That’s pretty helpful in restoring people’s confidence.

        I just feel bad for Obama. Its great that he got elected, and he’s an excellent leader for certain. But I don’t think he can turn water into wine, or part the waters, or heal the sick, or whatever people want him to do.

        I figure that his economic policy is not good, but then again McCain’s isn’t great, and neither one probably will make a huge difference. We’re going to have a recession, and then its going to recover. How long or how bad, who knows. But whatever the president does isn’t going to miraculously heal the economy or make it worse.

        So it makes more sense to vote based on issues that the president has more control of that DO matter. Foreign policy, social issues, leadership capabilities…and Obama was far superior on all accounts there.

        As for monorails…I don’t think Obama is some sort of con artist. I don’t know if he can deliver on his promises, but I’m sure he fully intends to. Don’t really think its relevant because of that. Only con artist I saw in this election was Palin. Cleverly calculated folksiness much?

      4. noodleguy says:

        Really about FDR? Didn’t know that. My US history courses were way off the mark then. Kind of frightening.

        Yeah, President is a weird office. I mean that honestly even a big group of people couldn’t do that job well, much less one person. That’s why I think the founding fathers wanted Congress to be the main branch of government, not the executive. Stupid imperial presidency. Obama would make a lovely figurehead though.

        “And where will they continue to come from?”
        I guess that’s really the question.

        But I still feel that Obama’s non economic policies are good. *motion of backing into a corner…* His foreign policy, for example.

        And I’m not so sure that Obama will necessarily act on all these supposed nutty liberal programs or whatever. He’s consistently called a socialist, and his record is insanely liberal, but his campaign message was…not that crazy. My guess is that it will be no different then if McCain had been elected. He’ll posture, sure, but doubtfully will he do much in the economic arena that isn’t predictable. I dunno, I really kind of think that what’s going to happen will happen. And the president only has so much power over that.

        Obama does have advisors and everything yoo. Not sure who they are…I ought to look that up…
        Well, there’s Jason Furman who I think Obama is still close to. Not sure how I feel ’bout that. Says that Furman is pro-trade…okay. Goolsbee…don’t know much about him. Don’t think I like him though.

        What about that survey done by The Economist? Something like 80% of economists said that Obama has a better grasp of economic principles.
        Thought this was strange:
        http://www.economist.com/world/unitedstates/displaystory.cfm?STORY_ID=12342127
        Kind of an old story though…wonder who it was that they surveyed really.

      5. Patrick says:

        I told one of my friends about this and his reaction was
        “Hey, monorails are cool! I’d buy one”

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